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Post by bobthebuilder on May 3, 2010 21:07:49 GMT
the mcb pair have to get a certain time at cork to be sent to coupe but if they get beat by another junior pair they will not be sent to coupe..
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Post by mark on May 3, 2010 21:17:38 GMT
suprised that methody pair are going to the coupe to be honest. They couldnt even win portadown regatta in a double?I have nothing against them but maybe we should have a different way of trailing. We see 7 scullers going forward for coupe/worlds but the the 7 or so other scullers who earned there places as some of the top juniors we have simply get discarded for homes sculling. Why dont we look at trying these athletes in pairs aswell? To be fair they did crash into a bush and have to get towed out at portadown but i do agree with what you are saying the trailing system is a bit iffy. The pair for mcb didn't even have any thoughts of ever being a pair they were forced into it as they wouldnt let them trial in the sculls. I also think that the trailing system should do more big boat trails to see who can really move a crew boat
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Post by chucknorris on May 3, 2010 21:32:23 GMT
For junior mens- For junior women- who really cares its women... you are a genius
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Post by hurleronditch on May 3, 2010 21:41:02 GMT
Bann - Bish Bish - Bann
A few years ago there was a MJ4 campaign where Bann and Coleraine were knocking lumps out of each other, and one or the other was a shoo-in for the pot - Bann being the favourites. And then they met Bish an champs day and were well beaten.
Moral of the story? Lets see how they compare head-to-head......?
Oh, and it's PoRtora....not potora
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Post by wondell on May 3, 2010 22:32:48 GMT
i think im gona have to agree with the people arguing against the methody pair.. its a bit silly that there are 2 pres lads and 2 methody lads going and no bann, bish or portora lads going as the sweep squad when those three crews are clearly the top three by far.. for example, a schools, bish hammered the living daylights out of the pres 8 and i m not sure what the result was the next day for skibb regatta in the 18 8s but i presume bish or bann won it, again hammering pres and methody.. fair enough, no bish lads or bann lads trialed (as far as i know) but in my opinion, the coupe selections should be the way they always used to be.. the winning champs 8 goes to coupe, end of sory.. because a winning champs 8 is faster than any 8 with people from 3 or 4 different clubs in it and have only been training together for what, a month?? its a bit stupid in my opinion
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Post by wondell on May 3, 2010 22:42:15 GMT
no idea really about non championship.. by the looks of i, bish hammered in the j16 8s and won the fours over bann i think?? didnt see a bann 16 8 out.. could they be hiding something? ? the bann 18 8 seems to be going well with bish close behind.. who do you think for the 18 8s??
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Post by wondell on May 3, 2010 22:58:49 GMT
yea i dont think they will give it up.. i think they have most of their 8 back, although i heard 4 or 5that were elligible quit anyway.. bann have there full 8 back and from what ive seen,looks like they havent stopped training since last years champs...i think bish were always favourites last year in the 16 8s and then portora went out and won which was a surprise.. ah now, i think we all know who will win the quads and doubles.. those skibb lads are monsters..
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Post by wondell on May 4, 2010 19:16:54 GMT
yea should be interesting.. who would you like to see winning the 8s??
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Post by junior8s2009 on May 4, 2010 20:58:52 GMT
Bish will be racing ghent this weekend, if they want to really establish their chances for retaining the 8 pot they'll have to perform here, other than that bann are very much firm favourites!
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Post by chucknorris on May 4, 2010 21:31:18 GMT
2 lee lads going to coupe with the pres pair, in a 4..
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Post by gerry on May 5, 2010 10:06:42 GMT
Wondell -"but in my opinion, the coupe selections should be the way they always used to be.. the winning champs 8 goes to coupe, end of sory.. because a winning champs 8 is faster than any 8 with people from 3 or 4 different clubs in it and have only been training together for what, a month?? its a bit stupid in my opinion"
Wondell, for the record a championship winning eight has never been sent to the coupe, ,as regards the Homes a club eight has not been selected for over 20 years, I assume you are younger then that and in time you will realize that a crew of better rowers will beat a club crew , just look at the performance of the eight best scullers rowing as an eight in the Head of the Charles last year beating national crews with world medalist in them, quality will always win out.
Time is not such a big issue many national team don't settle on the final crew until a few weeks if not days before a world championship. The better the rowers the less time it take to form a crew.
Rowing for your country should be based on being the best not been lucky to have good rowers in your club boat .
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Post by wondell on May 5, 2010 16:03:10 GMT
im not younger than that.. lets be honest, a crew training together for about 10 months is clearly going to row more as a unit than a crew that has been training a month.. sure the bann crew trained right through the summer and are now on track for the junior 18 8s;.. in the training camp the day after erne head, they were useless rowers when they were not in a boat with there own crew.. it takes time to form a good 8 and clearly we have different opinions but mine is that you should definately send the championship winning crew to the coupe.
gerry you said, "Rowing for your country should be based on being the best not been lucky to have good rowers in your club boat".. I dont think that is true either.. a crew will not win a championship unless they are 8 good rowers.. if you want to win a championship, you cant have a passenger, you ave to have 8 guys that will work as hard as possible for the whole 2k..
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Post by billy on May 5, 2010 17:41:32 GMT
2 lee lads going to coupe with the pres pair, in a 4.. they haven't been selected yet, they have to prove they are fast first at domestic regattas
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Post by junior8s2009 on May 5, 2010 20:47:02 GMT
As long as there is trialing there will be complaints and moans as to how it is excecuted.
last year there was complains of the lee 2- in the coupe 4+ and the 4 bish lads going to the coupe, the complaints ultimately proved correct as neither crews performed, to be honest the homes 4 was better. Now this year people are taking digs at mcb and pres who both performed well at trials and bet many boats in order to get this place weather or not there going, we'll just have to give em a chance.
The whole concept of the winning 8 being the coupe 8 i dont think is just. Reason for this is look how well ireland has done before, last year the coupe quad had a guy from coleraine and skibb and offaly init, coleraine and skibbereen are pretty much opposite ends of the country but they managed a bronze, the year before hanily from limerick and chambers from bann won the coupe, same story with them applies with the quad. Im sure theres plenty of stories like that...
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Post by wittyusername on May 6, 2010 8:09:04 GMT
I agree with Fili-pacher on this one... There are many examples of crews combined of different clubs performing well together on international stage in past few years. Perfect example is from the coupe back in 06. Castleconnell sculler was put into the coxless 4 which went on to win a bronze. From that boat alone i think all 4 were from 4 different clubs... Proof that club boats are'nt necassarily faster than composite squad boats.
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