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Post by reckthem on Jul 17, 2010 19:01:33 GMT
Just wondering, is the women's senior 8 winning crew taking the whole composite thing a bit too far with 7 clubs involved? by the way, the club I'm involved with had no seniors at this years championships just before people start saying it's sour grapes and I'm not begrudging the clubs or rowers involved, just a genuine question.
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Post by waughboy on Jul 18, 2010 15:00:37 GMT
Just wondering, is the women's senior 8 winning crew taking the whole composite thing a bit too far with 7 clubs involved? by the way, the club I'm involved with had no seniors at this years championships just before people start saying it's sour grapes and I'm not begrudging the clubs or rowers involved, just a genuine question. A.k.a the "facebook 8" hahaha ah i wouldnt blame em, there all scullers normally and had no events to enter so trew together an 8, id hate to not race at a champs after putting in a years hard work so can see why they done it. |
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Post by imkindablonde on Jul 18, 2010 16:24:41 GMT
Ah sure...They entered, they won! Its not Club championships...! They will have a champs though in sept. Its horrible for the people who put in a years hard work in the 8. It was more or less and international crew entered...In reality no club crew stood a chance! The poor commentator couldnt say the crew in one breath during the race! Great race though
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Post by mhughes on Jul 18, 2010 18:58:54 GMT
In Denmark,
They do NOT allow composite crews at any level...... a principle reason is that they do not want their national squad dividing up the national championships between themselves.
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Post by imkindablonde on Jul 18, 2010 19:39:54 GMT
They should have entered as TARA Boat Club...! Would have made more sense!
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Post by comebackkid on Jul 18, 2010 21:19:49 GMT
In Denmark, They do NOT allow composite crews at any level...... a principle reason is that they do not want their national squad dividing up the national championships between themselves. Did you get to present the big pot to NUIG? |
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Post by rtfm on Jul 19, 2010 0:02:51 GMT
Did you get to present the
Give it a rest.......stop baiting....
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Post by sculler1 on Jul 19, 2010 1:55:40 GMT
Well were not Denmark and tbh how many top class rowers do Denmark have ?
Fair play to the "Facebook 8" for winning considering they had hardly any training in the 8.
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Post by blackpearl on Jul 19, 2010 9:37:38 GMT
while no rules were broken there was something rather cynical about the win, i think the rules around composites should be re-visited again in the light of this particular occurrance.
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Post by waughboy on Jul 19, 2010 11:02:22 GMT
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Post by Oldreliable on Jul 19, 2010 12:14:26 GMT
I think composite crews have a place at the national championships otherwise events like the mens senior 8's will be straight finals every year, with only 3 or 4 crews being able to enter.
The real battle in the womens 8's was the race for 2nd place and these were crews who had been going head to head all year. I'm sure a win for any one of the crews that was in the blanket finish for 2nd place would have meant a lot more to them than it does for the pot hunters 8 that won the event. Maybe Rowing Ireland should look at the number of clubs allowed in a composite for future events
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Post by timberboats on Jul 19, 2010 12:59:33 GMT
had the ''facebook 8'' done any training in the boat prior to the regatta? if not then were they not already at a disadvantage going into the race compared to a full club crew who have been rowing together for quite some time?
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Post by mhughes on Jul 19, 2010 13:16:05 GMT
I would join in congratulating any athlete who was successful and many who had only heartbreak to deal with.
The rules were applied equally to all and the disqualification of two crews in particular were regrettable but completely within the rules and the Chief Umpire made his decisions with the full support of the Race Committee.
These same rules meant that the "Facebook 8" were the fastest crew out there.
I would have always felt that the composite rule was not a good one as it stands but the very reference to "Facebook 8" instead of a club name (the foundation of our Sport) speaks volumes for what is unsatisfactory with regards to this particular area.
That is an opinion that is not shared by all and is not a criticism of the athletes involved as they were able to coalesce in this way under the system.
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Post by happyinthree on Jul 19, 2010 13:24:29 GMT
That UCD/OC boat should hold their heads up high. I saw them coming off the water and even though I would not consider myself UCD's biggest fan my sympathies went out to them and their coach. There is no shame in being beaten by the collection they were beaten by.
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Post by strokeside on Jul 19, 2010 13:52:19 GMT
I can see for and against having composites. Most if not all of those rowing in the composite 8 would not have rowing this weekend but for the composite rule. I do however agree that a pure club win is always better. The fact that they won with a thrown together crew, no matter how experienced, does raise questions about the standard of womens rowing.
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